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Member-owned lenders and insurers rebuild their systems as mortgage rates climb back to 7.4%

A briefing on US credit unions, mortgage lenders, mutual and fraternal insurers, and wholesale insurance brokers for anyone about to meet the people who run them.

As of October 15, 2026 · Companion to The Originals

The 30-year mortgage rate climbed back to 7.40% in October 2026, up from 5.98% in February, after mortgage lending had started to recover. Freddie Mac via FRED Credit unions keep merging, and growth in the excess and surplus insurance market slowed to 2.8% in the first half of 2026. Tyfone Business Insurance Six leaders on our list, from a university credit union in Michigan to a family-owned insurance wholesaler outside Detroit, are building their own AI, rebuilding their core systems, and launching new brands, banks, and charters.

The short version

  • Four businesses earn money in four ways. Credit unions earn a lending spread, lenders a gain on each sold loan, insurers an underwriting profit, and wholesalers a commission. More
  • Rates are back above 7%. Mortgage lending fell by two thirds from 2021 to 2023 and had only begun to recover; credit unions keep shrinking in number while gaining members. More
  • Five changes mark the innovators: building their own AI, rebuilding core systems, launching new brands and charters, consolidating, and adjusting to looser federal rules. More
  • Six leaders on our list are making these changes, and three more outside it are making similar moves. Each profile ends with a question to ask. More
  • Brokers, lead sellers, dealers, and agents take a cut. A new law cut off mortgage trigger leads in March 2026. More
  • Ask what they've rebuilt, not whether AI will replace loan officers. Don't call credit unions small or mutuals old-fashioned. More

How the business works

Four kinds of firms lend and insure in four different ways

Outsiders lump these firms together as "financial services", but each earns money from a different customer under a different owner. Credit unions earn the spread between loan rates and the dividends they pay members. Mortgage lenders earn a gain when they sell a loan, insurers an underwriting profit plus investment income, and wholesale brokers a commission paid by the insurer.

What they share is ownership: most of the firms in this report answer to members, policyholders, or a family rather than to stock market investors. Each row below is one business, and the leaders on our list run firms in all four.

BusinessWho owns itHow it earnsKey numberLargest playersOur leaders
Credit unionsThe members, one vote each; not-for-profit and exempt from federal income taxThe spread between loan rates and the dividends paid on members' deposits, plus fees and card incomeNet interest margin of 3.39% of assets and a 0.79% return on assets in 2025 NCUANavy Federal ($204 billion in assets), State Employees', SchoolsFirst, BECU, and PenFed BankrateApril Clobes (MSUFCU), James Schenck (PenFed)
Mortgage lenders and brokersFounders, private equity, or public shareholders (UWM, Rocket)A gain when the loan is sold to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or investors, plus servicing fees; brokers earn a fee paid by the lender or the borrower, never bothIndependent lenders earned $785 a loan in 2025, against a long-run average of $1,031 MBARocket (which bought Mr. Cooper) and UWM, the two largest by loan count HousingWireMike Kortas (NEXA)
Mutual and fraternal insurersPolicyholders (mutuals) or members with a common bond (fraternals); no shareholdersPremiums minus claims and expenses, plus investment income on reserves; profit stays in the firm as surplus or goes back as dividendsMutuals write about 40% of US property and casualty premium Agency ChecklistsState Farm, Liberty Mutual, and Nationwide; Thrivent is the largest fraternalScott Jean (EMC), Terry Rasmussen (Thrivent)
Wholesale insurance brokersEmployees and private equity (Amwins, CRC), public shareholders (Ryan Specialty), or a family (Burns & Wilcox)A commission from the insurer, shared with the retail agent who brought the client, for placing hard-to-insure risksRyan Specialty reported a 35.7% adjusted profit margin in the second quarter of 2026 Ryan SpecialtyAmwins, Ryan Specialty's RT Specialty, CRC Group, and Burns & WilcoxDanny Kaufman (Burns & Wilcox)

Each business reports size differently: credit unions in members and assets, lenders in loan volume, insurers in premium, and wholesalers in premium placed.

Member and policyholder ownership changes the math

A credit union that earns more can pay members higher dividends, charge lower loan rates, or keep the money as capital; it can't pay shareholders, because it has none. Credit unions earned $18.8 billion in 2025, up 31.5%, and held capital equal to 11.26% of assets. NCUA Mutual insurers work the same way, so a mutual's chief executive answers to a board elected by policyholders rather than to the stock market. That gives these leaders room to spend for years on systems without a quarterly earnings call. EMC, a mutual, spent about a tenth of a year's premium rebuilding its core. Insurance Business

Excess and surplus insurance is where wholesalers work

When a risk is too unusual or dangerous for a regular, or admitted, insurer (a wildfire-exposed property, a trucking fleet, a new technology), a retail agent takes it to a wholesale broker. The broker places it with an excess and surplus (E&S) insurer, which is free to set its own rates and terms. That market reached $143.3 billion in premium in 2025, 12.9% of all property and casualty premium and 27.5% of commercial lines. Insurance Business

The economics in 2026

Mortgage rates back above 7% threaten a lending recovery that began in 2024

7.40%30-year mortgage rate on October 15, 2026, up from 5.98% in February source
4,287federally insured credit unions at the end of 2025, down from 7,339 in 2010 source
$143Bexcess and surplus insurance premium in 2025, more than triple 2014 source
40%of US property and casualty premium written by mutual insurers source

Notable change

Rates jump back above 7% as lending starts to recover

Mortgage lending rose to about $570 billion in the second quarter of 2026, 15% above a year earlier, and the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA) forecast $2.15 trillion for the year. Urban Institute Then the 30-year rate climbed to 7.40% by October 15. Freddie Mac via FRED

Independent lenders had returned to thin profits: $785 a loan in 2025, after $443 in 2024, with the bottom fifth of lenders losing money. MBA

So what: Lenders and credit union mortgage desks planned for a better 2026. Ask a leader what their plan looks like if rates stay above 7% through 2027.

The first chart shows how mortgage lending followed rates through and after the pandemic. The second shows the credit union movement shrinking in number while growing in members.

Mortgage lending fell 67% from its 2021 peak as rates more than doubled

So what: Lenders, brokers, and credit union mortgage desks all live on this volume, and it fell by two thirds in two years when rates more than doubled. With rates back above 7% in October 2026, the recovery the industry planned for 2026 is at risk. Ask a leader what they cut in 2022 and 2023, what they built instead, and what they'd do if rates stay here through 2027.

Single-family mortgage originations, $ trillions a year (top panel)30-year fixed mortgage rate, yearly average (bottom panel)
US mortgage originations and the 30-year mortgage rate by year, 2015 to 2025Pandemic$0T$1T$2T$3T$4T$5T2%4%6%8%’15’16’17’18’19’20’21’22’23’24’25Peak $4.44TLow $1.46TLow 2.96%High 6.81%$1.95TRate 6.60%
Originations are the Mortgage Bankers Association's (MBA) estimates of single-family mortgage lending, as published in the Urban Institute's Housing Finance at a Glance chartbooks: the November 2019 edition for 2015-2018 and the August 2026 edition, revised with 2025 government loan data, for 2019-2025. The mortgage rate is Freddie Mac's 30-year fixed average from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), averaged across the weeks of each year. Hover for each year; click or tap for details.
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Credit unions fell from 7,339 to 4,287 while their members rose from 90.5M to 144.7M

So what: The movement is consolidating: 157 mergers were approved in 2025, and the typical credit union is losing members while the largest gain them. Each surviving credit union serves more people, and leaders like April Clobes and James Schenck talk about growth and automation together. Ask a leader whether they expect to be a buyer or a target in the next five years, and what scale they think they need.

Federally insured credit unions

0k2k4k6k8k2010: 7,3397,339’112011: 7,0942012: 6,8192013: 6,554’142014: 6,2732015: 6,0212016: 5,785’172017: 5,5732018: 5,3752019: 5,236’202020: 5,0992021: 4,9422022: 4,760’232023: 4,6042024: 4,455’252025: 4,2874,287

Members, millions

0M40M80M120M160M2010: 90.5M90.5M’112011: 91.8M2012: 93.8M2013: 96.3M’142014: 99.3M2015: 102.7M2016: 106.9M’172017: 111.3M2018: 116.2M2019: 120.4M’202020: 124.3M2021: 129.6M2022: 135.3M’232023: 139.3M2024: 142.3M’252025: 144.7M144.7M
Counts are federally insured credit unions at year-end, as first published by the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA); NCUA later revised member totals slightly in five years. Members are accounts held by people, so one person can be a member of more than one credit union. The average credit union had 12,331 members in 2010 and 33,753 in 2025 (our arithmetic). Sources are in the table.
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Year (links to NCUA source)Federally insured credit unionsMembersMembers per credit union
20107,33990.5M12,331
20117,09491.8M12,941
20126,81993.8M13,756
20136,55496.3M14,693
20146,27399.3M15,830
20156,021102.7M17,057
20165,785106.9M18,479
20175,573111.3M19,971
20185,375116.2M21,619
20195,236120.4M22,995
20205,099124.3M24,377
20214,942129.6M26,224
20224,760135.3M28,424
20234,604139.3M30,256
20244,455142.3M31,942
20254,287144.7M33,753

Three more pressures sit under the numbers:

  • Credit unions are profitable, but growth goes to the biggest. Loans grew 4.9% in the year to June 2026, and members reached 146.1 million. NCUA But the median credit union lost 0.6% of its members. NCUA
  • The E&S boom is slowing. Premium in the 15 states with stamping offices, which record E&S policies, grew 2.8% in the first half of 2026, after 13.2% a year earlier, and property premium fell 13.7%. Business Insurance AM Best moved its outlook for the E&S market to stable from positive in November 2025. Insurance Business
  • Insurers had a strong 2025. The industry's combined ratio, claims and expenses as a share of premium, was 92.9, the best in more than a decade, by one count. Insurance Journal That gives mutuals capital to spend on systems, but rates on property insurance are already softening.

What is changing

Lenders and insurers are changing how the work gets done in five ways

The firms changing most are rebuilding the systems under the work instead of adding apps on top of them. In one survey, about 42% of credit union leaders said they used AI in specific areas, but only 8% used it across the organization. PYMNTS

From 2022 to 2026, the changes fall into five themes. The first three match the three groups of leaders on our list, and each cuts across credit unions, lenders, and insurers.

1. Building their own AI

A few firms are putting AI agents inside the daily work of the people who serve members and borrowers. PenFed moved branches, call centers, and operations onto one Salesforce platform and built AI agents that work beside its staff; it says call summaries alone save 30,000 minutes of work a day. Salesforce NEXA launched its own AI tools for loan officers in January 2026. HousingWire Ryan Specialty built its own underwriting workbench and says its property staff produce 11% more quotes. Coverager

On our list: James Schenck, Mike Kortas.

2. Rebuilding the core systems and the org chart

The core is the system of record for accounts, loans, or policies, and replacing it takes years. EMC replaced policy, billing, claims, portals, and data in one six-year program instead of piece by piece. Insurance Business Mountain America Credit Union finished the largest conversion in its core vendor's history in June 2026. Corelation Firms are reorganizing people around the new systems too: EMC cut 17 branches to 10 regions with specialist underwriting units, and Burns & Wilcox organized its brokers into practice groups by line of business. EMC Burns & Wilcox

On our list: Scott Jean, Danny Kaufman.

3. Launching new brands, banks, and charters

Credit unions can only serve their field of membership, so some build new brands or buy banks to reach people they couldn't. MSUFCU built AlumniFi and Collegiate as separate digital brands and bought two Illinois banks. Callahan & Associates Banking Dive Credit unions announced a record 22 bank purchases in 2024 and 16 in 2025. Tyfone Thrivent went further, winning an industrial loan company (ILC) charter to turn its credit union into an online bank. Banking Dive

On our list: April Clobes, Terry Rasmussen.

4. Consolidating into giants

Rocket bought Mr. Cooper, creating a servicer of more than $2.1 trillion in loans for about 10 million clients. Real Estate News Private equity firms bought Truist's insurance brokerage, then the fifth largest in the US, at a $15.5 billion valuation, and recapitalized Amwins. Coverager Amwins In 2025, 73% of 695 insurance agency and broker deals in North America were done by private equity-backed or hybrid buyers. Insurance Business

5. Washington loosens rules while tax fights heat up

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) rescinded rules and ended consent orders in 2025. Mayer Brown The President removed two of the three NCUA board members in April 2025. CU Times A federal ban on most mortgage "trigger leads" took effect on March 5, 2026. NAMB The community banks' trade group, the Independent Community Bankers of America (ICBA), wants the tax exemption ended for credit unions over $1 billion in assets. ICBA

The innovators

Six leaders on our list are rebuilding how their lenders and insurers work

Six leaders in these businesses are among The Originals. Each has made a dated, costly change to how the work is done. The highest scorers are April Clobes of MSUFCU (7.0), Mike Kortas of NEXA (6.2), and Scott Jean of EMC (6.2).

14 of these 17 dated moves came in 2023 or later

So what: Most of these leaders made their costliest moves after rates jumped in 2022, when mortgage volume collapsed and firms had to cut the cost of serving each member, loan, or policy. The changes are recent, so asking what has paid off, and what they'd undo, is a natural way to open a conversation.

Building their own AIRebuilding the core systems and the org chartLaunching new brands, banks, and charters
Dated moves by 6 leaders on our list, 2019 to 2026Pandemic20192020202120222023202420252026Danny KaufmanDanny Kaufman, 2021: Launches specialist practice groupsDanny Kaufman, 2025: Hires more than 350 people for growthDanny Kaufman, 2026: Moves its London business onto a new cloud platformJames SchenckJames Schenck, 2022: Cuts 14% of staffJames Schenck, 2026: Runs branches and call centers on one platform with AI agentsScott JeanScott Jean, 2022: Exits the reinsurance businessScott Jean, 2025: Agrees to sell EMC LifeScott Jean, 2026: Finishes a six-year, all-at-once core rebuildApril ClobesApril Clobes, 2023: Agrees to buy two Illinois banksApril Clobes, 2023: Runs Collegiate and AlumniFi as digital brandsApril Clobes, 2025: Buys naming rights to Detroit City FC's stadiumTerry RasmussenTerry Rasmussen, 2024: Wins a bank charterTerry Rasmussen, 2025: Opens Thrivent BankMike KortasMike Kortas, 2025: Gives its loan officers Tidalwave's AI assistantMike Kortas, 2026: Launches its own AI tools for loan officersMike Kortas, 2026: Buys UMortgageMike Kortas, 2026: Adds a correspondent channel and a servicer
Each dot is one costly change to how the work is done. Click a dot for a short summary and a link to the story.
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YearLeaderMoveSource
2021Danny KaufmanLaunches specialist practice groupsBurns & Wilcox
2022James SchenckCuts 14% of staffCU Times
2022Scott JeanExits the reinsurance businessEMC Insurance
2023April ClobesAgrees to buy two Illinois banksBanking Dive
2023April ClobesRuns Collegiate and AlumniFi as digital brandsCallahan & Associates
2024Terry RasmussenWins a bank charterBanking Dive
2025April ClobesBuys naming rights to Detroit City FC's stadiumCUToday
2025Danny KaufmanHires more than 350 people for growthBurns & Wilcox
2025Mike KortasGives its loan officers Tidalwave's AI assistantInman
2025Scott JeanAgrees to sell EMC LifeEMC Insurance
2025Terry RasmussenOpens Thrivent BankThrivent
2026Danny KaufmanMoves its London business onto a new cloud platformFinTech Global
2026James SchenckRuns branches and call centers on one platform with AI agentsSalesforce
2026Mike KortasLaunches its own AI tools for loan officersHousingWire
2026Mike KortasBuys UMortgageHousingWire
2026Mike KortasAdds a correspondent channel and a servicerHousingWire
2026Scott JeanFinishes a six-year, all-at-once core rebuildInsurance Business

Building their own AI

Mike Kortas
Mike KortasOn the list · 6.2 of 10
Founder and Executive Partner, NEXA Lending (NEXA Mortgage) · Mesa, Arizona; mortgage brokerage he founded and has owned alone since July 2026, with 4,122 sponsored loan officers in October 2026; handed the CEO title to Geri Farr in September 2026

Mike launched NEXA's own AI tools for loan officers in January 2026. HousingWire He has turned a pure brokerage into a hybrid that also closes loans in its own name and services them through evoLend, HousingWire and in August 2026 NEXA bought UMortgage, adding 246 loan officers. HousingWire In September he gave up the CEO title, saying "If removing my title helps us grow faster, I will remove the title." HousingWire

“What we're rolling out over the next few weeks alone will change how loans are originated, marketed, and closed” source

Ask aboutNow that NEXA also services loans, how does the loan officer's job change after closing, and what does AI do in it?

James Schenck
James SchenckOn the list · 4.8 of 10
President and CEO, PenFed Credit Union · McLean, Virginia; member-owned credit union with about 2.8 million members, $29.2 billion in assets, and about 2,300 employees; CEO since 2014

James cut 569 jobs, about 14% of PenFed's staff, in the fourth quarter of 2022 as lending fell. CU Times Since then he has moved branches, call centers, operations, and PenFed's app onto one Salesforce platform, replaced more than 600 tools, and put AI agents beside staff in member service and IT. Salesforce

“I want to serve 6 million members as easily as we're currently serving 3 million members with this core team of employees.” source

Ask aboutWhich work did the AI agents take over first, and what do the people who used to do it do now?

Rebuilding the core systems and the org chart

Scott Jean
Scott JeanOn the list · 6.2 of 10
President and CEO, EMC Insurance Companies · Des Moines, Iowa; policyholder-owned mutual founded in 1911, with about 2,100 employees and $2.05 billion in 2024 premium; CEO since 2020

Scott ran EMC's six-year rebuild of its whole core (policy, billing, claims, portals, and data) at once, at a cost of about a tenth of a year's premium. Insurance Business He took EMC out of the reinsurance business in 2022, EMC cut 17 branches to 10 regions with specialist underwriting units in 2025, EMC and agreed in December 2025 to sell EMC Life while keeping the insurer mutual. EMC

“We selected Guidewire and Guidewire Cloud to help EMC transform into a digital company that can easily adjust to industry disruption and evolving customer expectations” source

Ask aboutWhat did rebuilding everything at once let EMC do that a step-by-step upgrade wouldn't, and what would he never do again?

Danny Kaufman
Danny KaufmanOn the list · 3.4 of 10
President, Burns & Wilcox; Group Co-President, H.W. Kaufman Group, Burns & Wilcox and H.W. Kaufman Group · Farmington Hills, Michigan; family-owned wholesale insurance broker and underwriting manager doing business in 94 countries; president since 2022

As chief operating officer, Danny led the launch of practice groups of brokers who specialize by line of business. Burns & Wilcox Burns & Wilcox began overhauling its digital systems in 2020 and now builds AI tools for its brokers and underwriters, Insurance Business and its London-based arm moved onto Novidea's cloud broker system in May 2026. FinTech Global He is also co-president of the family's H.W. Kaufman Group. Burns & Wilcox

“We're really the only one at our scale that's not only privately owned, but also family owned and operated” source

Ask aboutAs big retail brokers buy each other and go straight to insurers, what keeps a family wholesaler necessary?

Launching new brands, banks, and charters

April Clobes
April ClobesOn the list · 7.0 of 10
President and CEO, Michigan State University Federal Credit Union (MSUFCU) · East Lansing, Michigan; member-owned credit union with about $7.5 billion in assets and more than 1,200 employees; CEO since 2015

April built separate digital brands for each stage of life: Collegiate for students and AlumniFi for graduates, each designed to compete with online banks. Callahan & Associates In August 2023 she agreed to buy two Illinois banks, McHenry Savings Bank and Algonquin State Bank, taking the credit union into the Chicago suburbs. Banking Dive In 2025 AlumniFi bought the naming rights to Detroit City FC's new stadium. CUToday

“If you don't have a path forward to grow, it's harder to be relevant and to sustain.” source

Ask aboutWhich did more for member growth, buying banks or building digital brands, and what did each cost?

Terry Rasmussen
Terry RasmussenOn the list · 5.3 of 10
President and CEO, Thrivent · Minneapolis; member-owned fraternal financial services firm with 2.4 million clients, more than 4,500 employees, and $212 billion under management or advice

Terry won an industrial loan company charter from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) in June 2024, the first since 2020, to turn Thrivent's credit union into a bank. Banking Dive Thrivent Bank opened online in June 2025. Thrivent She has said that when she became CEO, people didn't know Thrivent was a financial services company. Fortune

“For over 120 years, Thrivent has provided purpose-based advice and now we're expanding in banking to grow and serve even more people” source

Ask aboutWhat has the bank changed for members that the credit union couldn't do?

Three leaders outside the list are making similar moves

Each of these leaders runs a member-owned, mutual, or founder-led firm and has made a change worth asking about.

Leigh Brady
President and CEO, State Employees' Credit Union (SECU) · Raleigh, North Carolina; member-owned credit union with $59 billion in assets, 2.9 million members, and more than 8,000 employees

Leigh signed in May 2026 to replace SECU's core system with Corelation's KeyStone, which SECU calls a key piece of its multi-year transformation plan. SECU

Ask aboutWhat a core replacement at the second-largest US credit union changes for a branch employee.

Casey Crawford
Co-founder and CEO, Movement Mortgage · Fort Mill, South Carolina; privately held, founder-led mortgage lender

Casey finished a three-year overhaul of Movement's technology in October 2025 and rolled out MORE, its new loan origination system, nationwide in 13 months. HousingWire

“Once again, we chose to take on the hardest work during a hard market” source

Ask aboutWhy rebuild the loan system in a downturn, and what the new system lets a loan officer skip.

Ed Largent
CEO and Board Chair, Westfield · Westfield Center, Ohio; Ohio Farmers Insurance group with about 3,000 employees

Ed launched Westfield Specialty in 2021 and added a Lloyd's syndicate in 2023, moving a regional insurer into specialty lines. Westfield Westfield

“Our expectation is to methodically enter lines of business where we can attract top talent and grow profitably.” source

Ask aboutHow Westfield hires specialty underwriters without a stock price to pay them with.

The wider field

Public giants and software vendors set the terms the member-owned firms react to

A few large firms and vendors shape what the leaders above can do. They set the price of a loan, the pace of consolidation, and the systems everyone else rents.

Large firms and buyers

  • Rocket Companies Public; bought Mr. Cooper in October 2025 and services loans for about 10 million clients.
  • UWM Public, controlled by the Ishbia family; lends only through brokers and works with more than 13,000 broker firms.
  • Navy Federal Credit Union The largest credit union, with $204 billion in assets.
  • CrossCountry Mortgage Founder-owned lender that outbid UWM for Two Harbors in 2026 to own its loan servicing.
  • Global Federal Credit Union Closed its purchase of First Financial Northwest Bank in April 2025.
  • Fairway Home Mortgage Signed an enterprise partnership with OpenAI in September 2025.

Companies selling the tools

  • Salesforce The platform and AI agents under PenFed's member service.
  • Guidewire Core policy, billing, and claims systems for insurers, including EMC; now sells AI assistants on top.
  • Corelation KeyStone core for credit unions; converted Mountain America in 2026 and signed SECU.
  • Tidalwave AI assistant for mortgage loan officers; NEXA is its largest client.

How customers find the firms

Brokers, lead sellers, dealers, and agents take a share of each customer

Notable change

A new law cuts off most mortgage trigger leads from March 2026

When a borrower applied for a mortgage, the credit bureaus used to sell that news to rival lenders, who called within hours. Since March 5, 2026, the Homebuyers Privacy Protection Act, signed in September 2025, allows those "trigger leads" only if the buyer has an existing relationship with the borrower or the borrower opts in. NAMB

Lead sellers face other pressure too: a class action says Zillow steered buyers to its own lender and hid referral fees, and in September 2026 Zillow asked the court to dismiss it for good. Real Estate News

So what: Lenders that bought trigger leads lost a channel, and those that own the relationship gained one. Ask a lender where new borrowers come from now, and how much of that they own.

Each business pays a different middleman. Wholesale lenders pay mortgage brokers. Lenders pay lead sellers for each name. Credit unions let car dealers keep part of the loan rate, and insurers pay independent agents and wholesale brokers a commission on each policy. A member who joins through an employer or church costs no middleman anything.

2 in 10US mortgages that come through brokers, UWM says, almost double the 2014 low source
62%of US property and casualty premium placed by independent agents in 2025 source
45%of E&S premium placed by wholesale brokers without authority to bind, with nearly 25% more through agencies that underwrite for insurers source
27%of credit unions run on Fiserv core systems, the largest vendor's share in 2024 source

Lenders and insurers pay five of the seven channels that bring them customers

So what: Brokers, lead sellers, car dealers, and independent agents all take a cut before a loan or policy reaches the firm, and wholesale brokers sit between agents and the insurers that take hard risks. Only members who come through their own employer, school, or church, and borrowers sent by a real estate agent, cost the firm no fee. Ask a leader what share of new members or policies comes through channels they pay, and what they've built to reach customers directly.

The firm pays the channelNo fee to the channel

Fee levels are rarely published in these businesses; where no benchmark exists, the map says so rather than guessing. Each channel links to its source.
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ChannelExamplesDoes the firm pay?What it costs the firmSource
Mortgage brokersAbout 13,000 broker shops, including NEXA, working with wholesale lenders such as UWM and Rocket Pro TPOYesEither the lender or the borrower pays the broker, never both, and the pay can't rise with the loan's rateUWM annual report
Lead sellers and trigger leadsLendingTree, Zillow, and the credit bureausYesPaid per lead, click, or funded loan; prices aren't publishedNAMB
Real estate agentsThe buyer's agent recommends a lenderNoNo legal referral fee; brokerage-owned lenders must disclose the tieReal Estate News
Car dealersDealers sending loans through platforms such as Origence's CUDL dealer networkYesMarkups average around 2.5% of the rate, one credit union saidThe Financial Brand
Independent insurance agentsAgencies that represent several insurersYesA commission on each premium; rates vary by line and aren't publishedAgency Checklists
Wholesale brokers and managing general agents (MGAs)Amwins, RT Specialty, CRC, and Burns & WilcoxYesThe insurer pays a commission that the wholesaler shares with the agent; splits aren't publishedInsurance Business
Members' own tiesAn employer, university, military service, or church communityNoNo fee to a middleman; the firm pays its own staff and marketingThrivent

A few owners control the channels

What it means for the firms

  • Brokers are a cheap way to reach borrowers, and lenders compete for them. UWM argues that "the fastest, cheapest and easiest way for a borrower to obtain a residential mortgage is through the wholesale channel". UWM NEXA, the mortgage brokerage on our list, is adding its own servicing so it keeps the borrower after closing. HousingWire
  • Car loans depend on dealers. Dealers can mark up a credit union's rate and keep the difference; federal consent orders in 2015 capped markups at 1.25% on loans of five years or less. Goodwin Credit union car loans fell 0.3% in 2025, to $480.1 billion. NCUA
  • Big retail brokers are squeezing wholesalers. As private equity buys up agencies, the largest ones want to deal directly with insurers, which cuts out the wholesale step. Insurance Business Agencies that underwrite for insurers, known as managing general agents (MGAs), grew about 19% in 2025, to roughly $94 billion. Reinsurance News

Rules for the middlemen are changing

WhenWhoWhat it does
Jul 2010CongressThe Nonadmitted and Reinsurance Reform Act makes E&S tax and licensing rules follow the client's home state. AM Best
Apr 2011Federal Reserve (now CFPB)Lets a lender or a borrower pay a mortgage broker, never both, and bans pay tied to the loan's rate. The Truth About Mortgage
Jul 2015CFPB and Justice DepartmentCaps a car lender's dealer markups at 1.25% on loans of five years or less. Goodwin
Mar 2026CongressBans most mortgage trigger leads. NAMB
2026FDICConditionally approves deposit insurance for carmakers' industrial loan banks, including Ford, GM, and Stellantis. Goodwin
Sep 2026Federal courtZillow asks the court to dismiss a class action over its referral fees and in-house lender for good. Real Estate News

Three leaders run the main channels

Scott Purviance runs Amwins and Tim Turner runs Ryan Specialty, two of the largest wholesale brokers, which compete with Burns & Wilcox. Tony Boutelle runs Origence, which connects car dealers to credit unions.

Scott Purviance
Scott Purviance
CEO, Amwins · Charlotte; wholesale insurance distributor that calls itself the largest independent one in the US, about 40% owned by employees after a $1 billion recapitalization in 2023; CEO since 2018

Scott led Amwins' $1 billion recapitalization in 2023, which brought in private equity investors while employees kept a large stake. Amwins In May 2026 Amwins bought NARDAC to build an energy, power, and infrastructure practice. Amwins

“For us to consider a deal, it needs to add a capability to our firm, and there has to be a strong cultural fit” source

Ask aboutAs retail brokers grow big enough to go straight to insurers, what can a wholesaler still do that they can't?

Tim Turner
Tim Turner
CEO, Ryan Specialty; Chairman, RT Specialty, Ryan Specialty · Chicago; public wholesale broker and underwriting manager founded by Patrick G. Ryan; CEO since October 2024

Tim reported second-quarter 2026 revenue of $916.6 million, up 7.2%, and bought back $260 million of stock. Ryan Specialty Ryan Specialty built its own underwriting workbench, which it says lets property staff produce 11% more quotes. Coverager

Ask aboutWith property prices falling, where does a wholesaler's growth come from in 2027?

Tony Boutelle
Tony Boutelle
President and CEO, Origence · Irvine, California; lending technology company owned by credit unions, which runs CUDL, the network that sends car dealers' loans to credit unions

Tony runs the main network linking car dealers to credit unions; Origence says it has helped credit unions originate nearly $600 billion in loans. Origence via KDH News

Ask aboutAs carmakers' own banks win deposit insurance, how do credit unions keep the dealer's business?

Trade-offs

Six trade-offs divide the leaders you'll meet

Most leaders on our list have picked a side on several of these. In our reading, asking which side they picked, and why, gets to their strategy faster than asking about trends.

1Merge and buy banks, or stay local

"If you don't have a path forward to grow, it's harder to be relevant and to sustain," April Clobes says. Callahan & Associates

Most credit unions stay small: only 739 of 4,287 had more than $500 million in assets at the end of 2025. NCUA

AskWhat size do you need to be to keep your members ten years from now?

2Sell through brokers or own the borrower

UWM says brokers are the fastest, cheapest way to get a mortgage. UWM

NEXA is adding its own correspondent lending and servicing to keep borrowers after closing. HousingWire

AskWho owns the relationship with a borrower five years after the loan closes?

3Rebuild the core at once or step by step

EMC rebuilt policy, billing, claims, and data in one six-year program. Insurance Business

PenFed consolidated more than 600 tools onto one Salesforce platform and took its AI agents from trial to daily use in seven months. Salesforce

AskWhat would you have done differently if you'd had to keep the old system running for five more years?

4Stay mutual or bring in outside capital

EMC is keeping its insurer mutual while selling EMC Life to Avocet Partners. EMC

Amwins sold stakes to private equity firms in a $1 billion recapitalization, with employees keeping about 40%. Amwins

AskWhat can you do as a mutual or family firm that a firm with outside investors can't?

5Keep the charter or get a new one

Thrivent turned its credit union into a bank with an ILC charter. Banking Dive

MSUFCU stayed a credit union and built new brands on top of the same charter. Callahan & Associates

AskWhat would a different charter let you do that your current one doesn't?

6Return earnings to members or invest them

Credit unions earned $18.8 billion in 2025, up 31.5%, money that could go back as better rates. NCUA

PenFed spent on one platform and AI agents so that, James Schenck says, the same team can serve twice the members. Salesforce

AskHow do you explain a large technology budget to members who'd rather have a better rate?

Before a first conversation

Leaders want to talk about rates, consolidation, regulators, and their core systems

In late 2026, mortgage lenders talk about rates back above 7% and the end of trigger leads. Credit union leaders talk about mergers, bank purchases, a changed NCUA board, and banks' push to end their tax exemption. Insurers talk about slowing E&S growth, softer property prices, and the cost of replacing core systems.

Seven mistakes mark an outsider

  • Calling credit unions small. They hold $2.5 trillion in assets and have 146 million members; Navy Federal alone has $204 billion. NCUA Bankrate
  • Saying credit unions don't care about profit. They earned $18.8 billion in 2025; the profit becomes capital or member benefits instead of shareholder returns. NCUA
  • Calling mortgage brokers a dying middleman. About 2 in 10 loans come through brokers, almost double the 2014 low. UWM
  • Assuming lenders make big money on each loan. Independent lenders earned $785 a loan in 2025, and the bottom fifth lost money. MBA
  • Treating "mutual" as small or old-fashioned. Mutuals write about 40% of property and casualty premium. Agency Checklists
  • Calling E&S insurance unregulated or weak. E&S insurers set their own rates, but 98% hold AM Best ratings of "a-" or better, against 85% of all property and casualty insurers. AM Best
  • Calling Thrivent a social club. It's a regulated insurer, and now a bank owner, with $212 billion under management or advice. Thrivent

Eleven questions get these leaders talking about the work

  1. Rates went back above 7% in October. What did you change the last time rates jumped, and what would you do differently now?
  2. Which job in your firm has AI changed most so far, and which did you expect to change that hasn't?
  3. If you replaced a core system, what did you learn that you'd tell another CEO before they start?
  4. (Credit union) Do you expect to be a buyer or a target in the next five years? What scale do you think you need?
  5. (Credit union) What did your members get from your last merger or bank purchase that they couldn't get before?
  6. (Credit union) Banks want your tax exemption ended. How do you show members what they get from it?
  7. (Mortgage) Trigger leads were cut off in March. Where do your new borrowers come from now, and how many of them do you own?
  8. (Insurer) What does being a mutual or fraternal let you do that a stock company can't, and where does it hold you back?
  9. (Wholesale) As big retail brokers buy each other and go straight to insurers, what keeps your firm necessary?
  10. How many of your customers come from your own marketing and members, and how many through channels you pay?
  11. What's one thing you rebuilt in the last three years that you'd do again, and one you'd undo?

Where they gather

Six events bring these leaders together before June 2027

The Governmental Affairs Conference draws credit union chief executives to Washington. The MBA's independent mortgage bankers conference draws lender owners, the Wholesale & Specialty Insurance Association (WSIA) Underwriting Summit draws wholesale brokers, and the American Fraternal Alliance gathers fraternal insurers.

Glossary

Twenty-four terms come up in the first ten minutes

Admitted insurer
An insurer that files its rates and policy forms with the state and is backed by the state's guaranty fund.
Combined ratio
Claims plus expenses as a share of premium; under 100 means the insurer made money on underwriting.
Core system
The system of record for accounts and loans at a credit union, or policies, billing, and claims at an insurer.
Correspondent lender
A lender that closes loans in its own name and then sells them to a larger lender.
CUSO
Credit union service organization: a company owned by credit unions that sells them shared services.
Dealer reserve
The markup a car dealer adds to a lender's rate and keeps.
Demutualization
Converting a mutual, owned by its policyholders, into a stock company.
E&S (excess and surplus) insurance
Insurance for risks regular insurers won't take, sold through licensed surplus lines brokers, with freedom on rates and terms.
Field of membership
The group a credit union may serve, such as an employer, a community, or an association.
Fraternal benefit society
A member-owned insurer with a common bond, local chapters, and a charitable mission, exempt from federal income tax.
Gain on sale
A lender's profit from selling a new loan to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or other investors.
ILC (industrial loan company)
A state-chartered bank with FDIC deposit insurance that a non-bank company, such as Thrivent, can own.
Independent mortgage bank (IMB)
A lender that doesn't take deposits and funds loans to sell them.
LO comp rule
The 2011 rule that bans paying loan officers more for higher rates and stops brokers being paid by both lender and borrower.
MGA (managing general agent)
An agency that underwrites and binds policies on an insurer's behalf.
MSR (mortgage servicing right)
The right to collect a loan's payments for a fee; keeping it keeps the borrower.
Mutual insurer
An insurer owned by its policyholders, with no shareholders.
NCUA
National Credit Union Administration: the federal regulator and deposit insurer for credit unions.
Net worth ratio
A credit union's capital as a share of its assets; 11.26% across the system in 2025.
Shares and dividends
A credit union's words for deposits and the interest paid on them.
Surplus
An insurer's capital: what's left after setting aside money for expected claims.
Trigger lead
A credit bureau's alert, sold to rival lenders, that a person has applied for a mortgage; mostly banned since March 2026.
Wholesale broker
A broker who places risks for retail agents with E&S insurers and Lloyd's.
Wholesale channel
Lending through brokers, who take the application while the lender funds the loan.

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