Member-owned lenders and insurers rebuild their systems as mortgage rates climb back to 7.4%
A briefing on US credit unions, mortgage lenders, mutual and fraternal insurers, and wholesale insurance brokers for anyone about to meet the people who run them.
The 30-year mortgage rate climbed back to 7.40% in October 2026, up from 5.98% in February, after mortgage lending had started to recover. Freddie Mac via FRED Credit unions keep merging, and growth in the excess and surplus insurance market slowed to 2.8% in the first half of 2026. Tyfone Business Insurance Six leaders on our list, from a university credit union in Michigan to a family-owned insurance wholesaler outside Detroit, are building their own AI, rebuilding their core systems, and launching new brands, banks, and charters.
The short version
Four businesses earn money in four ways. Credit unions earn a lending spread, lenders a gain on each sold loan, insurers an underwriting profit, and wholesalers a commission. More
Rates are back above 7%. Mortgage lending fell by two thirds from 2021 to 2023 and had only begun to recover; credit unions keep shrinking in number while gaining members. More
Five changes mark the innovators: building their own AI, rebuilding core systems, launching new brands and charters, consolidating, and adjusting to looser federal rules. More
Six leaders on our list are making these changes, and three more outside it are making similar moves. Each profile ends with a question to ask. More
Brokers, lead sellers, dealers, and agents take a cut. A new law cut off mortgage trigger leads in March 2026. More
Ask what they've rebuilt, not whether AI will replace loan officers. Don't call credit unions small or mutuals old-fashioned. More
How the business works
Four kinds of firms lend and insure in four different ways
Outsiders lump these firms together as "financial services", but each earns money from a different customer under a different owner. Credit unions earn the spread between loan rates and the dividends they pay members. Mortgage lenders earn a gain when they sell a loan, insurers an underwriting profit plus investment income, and wholesale brokers a commission paid by the insurer.
What they share is ownership: most of the firms in this report answer to members, policyholders, or a family rather than to stock market investors. Each row below is one business, and the leaders on our list run firms in all four.
Business
Who owns it
How it earns
Key number
Largest players
Our leaders
Credit unions
The members, one vote each; not-for-profit and exempt from federal income tax
The spread between loan rates and the dividends paid on members' deposits, plus fees and card income
Net interest margin of 3.39% of assets and a 0.79% return on assets in 2025 NCUA
Navy Federal ($204 billion in assets), State Employees', SchoolsFirst, BECU, and PenFed Bankrate
April Clobes (MSUFCU), James Schenck (PenFed)
Mortgage lenders and brokers
Founders, private equity, or public shareholders (UWM, Rocket)
A gain when the loan is sold to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or investors, plus servicing fees; brokers earn a fee paid by the lender or the borrower, never both
Independent lenders earned $785 a loan in 2025, against a long-run average of $1,031 MBA
Rocket (which bought Mr. Cooper) and UWM, the two largest by loan count HousingWire
Mike Kortas (NEXA)
Mutual and fraternal insurers
Policyholders (mutuals) or members with a common bond (fraternals); no shareholders
Premiums minus claims and expenses, plus investment income on reserves; profit stays in the firm as surplus or goes back as dividends
Mutuals write about 40% of US property and casualty premium Agency Checklists
State Farm, Liberty Mutual, and Nationwide; Thrivent is the largest fraternal
Scott Jean (EMC), Terry Rasmussen (Thrivent)
Wholesale insurance brokers
Employees and private equity (Amwins, CRC), public shareholders (Ryan Specialty), or a family (Burns & Wilcox)
A commission from the insurer, shared with the retail agent who brought the client, for placing hard-to-insure risks
Ryan Specialty reported a 35.7% adjusted profit margin in the second quarter of 2026 Ryan Specialty
Amwins, Ryan Specialty's RT Specialty, CRC Group, and Burns & Wilcox
Danny Kaufman (Burns & Wilcox)
Each business reports size differently: credit unions in members and assets, lenders in loan volume, insurers in premium, and wholesalers in premium placed.
Member and policyholder ownership changes the math
A credit union that earns more can pay members higher dividends, charge lower loan rates, or keep the money as capital; it can't pay shareholders, because it has none. Credit unions earned $18.8 billion in 2025, up 31.5%, and held capital equal to 11.26% of assets. NCUA Mutual insurers work the same way, so a mutual's chief executive answers to a board elected by policyholders rather than to the stock market. That gives these leaders room to spend for years on systems without a quarterly earnings call. EMC, a mutual, spent about a tenth of a year's premium rebuilding its core. Insurance Business
Excess and surplus insurance is where wholesalers work
When a risk is too unusual or dangerous for a regular, or admitted, insurer (a wildfire-exposed property, a trucking fleet, a new technology), a retail agent takes it to a wholesale broker. The broker places it with an excess and surplus (E&S) insurer, which is free to set its own rates and terms. That market reached $143.3 billion in premium in 2025, 12.9% of all property and casualty premium and 27.5% of commercial lines. Insurance Business
The economics in 2026
Mortgage rates back above 7% threaten a lending recovery that began in 2024
7.40%30-year mortgage rate on October 15, 2026, up from 5.98% in Februarysource
4,287federally insured credit unions at the end of 2025, down from 7,339 in 2010source
$143Bexcess and surplus insurance premium in 2025, more than triple 2014source
40%of US property and casualty premium written by mutual insurerssource
Notable change
Rates jump back above 7% as lending starts to recover
Mortgage lending rose to about $570 billion in the second quarter of 2026, 15% above a year earlier, and the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA) forecast $2.15 trillion for the year. Urban Institute Then the 30-year rate climbed to 7.40% by October 15. Freddie Mac via FRED
Independent lenders had returned to thin profits: $785 a loan in 2025, after $443 in 2024, with the bottom fifth of lenders losing money. MBA
So what: Lenders and credit union mortgage desks planned for a better 2026. Ask a leader what their plan looks like if rates stay above 7% through 2027.
The first chart shows how mortgage lending followed rates through and after the pandemic. The second shows the credit union movement shrinking in number while growing in members.
Mortgage lending fell 67% from its 2021 peak as rates more than doubled
So what: Lenders, brokers, and credit union mortgage desks all live on this volume, and it fell by two thirds in two years when rates more than doubled. With rates back above 7% in October 2026, the recovery the industry planned for 2026 is at risk. Ask a leader what they cut in 2022 and 2023, what they built instead, and what they'd do if rates stay here through 2027.
Single-family mortgage originations, $ trillions a year (top panel)30-year fixed mortgage rate, yearly average (bottom panel)
Originations are the Mortgage Bankers Association's (MBA) estimates of single-family mortgage lending, as published in the Urban Institute's Housing Finance at a Glance chartbooks: the November 2019 edition for 2015-2018 and the August 2026 edition, revised with 2025 government loan data, for 2019-2025. The mortgage rate is Freddie Mac's 30-year fixed average from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), averaged across the weeks of each year. Hover for each year; click or tap for details.Show as a table
Credit unions fell from 7,339 to 4,287 while their members rose from 90.5M to 144.7M
So what: The movement is consolidating: 157 mergers were approved in 2025, and the typical credit union is losing members while the largest gain them. Each surviving credit union serves more people, and leaders like April Clobes and James Schenck talk about growth and automation together. Ask a leader whether they expect to be a buyer or a target in the next five years, and what scale they think they need.
Federally insured credit unions
Members, millions
Counts are federally insured credit unions at year-end, as first published by the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA); NCUA later revised member totals slightly in five years. Members are accounts held by people, so one person can be a member of more than one credit union. The average credit union had 12,331 members in 2010 and 33,753 in 2025 (our arithmetic). Sources are in the table.Show as a table
Credit unions are profitable, but growth goes to the biggest. Loans grew 4.9% in the year to June 2026, and members reached 146.1 million. NCUA But the median credit union lost 0.6% of its members. NCUA
The E&S boom is slowing. Premium in the 15 states with stamping offices, which record E&S policies, grew 2.8% in the first half of 2026, after 13.2% a year earlier, and property premium fell 13.7%. Business Insurance AM Best moved its outlook for the E&S market to stable from positive in November 2025. Insurance Business
Insurers had a strong 2025. The industry's combined ratio, claims and expenses as a share of premium, was 92.9, the best in more than a decade, by one count. Insurance Journal That gives mutuals capital to spend on systems, but rates on property insurance are already softening.
What is changing
Lenders and insurers are changing how the work gets done in five ways
The firms changing most are rebuilding the systems under the work instead of adding apps on top of them. In one survey, about 42% of credit union leaders said they used AI in specific areas, but only 8% used it across the organization. PYMNTS
From 2022 to 2026, the changes fall into five themes. The first three match the three groups of leaders on our list, and each cuts across credit unions, lenders, and insurers.
1. Building their own AI
A few firms are putting AI agents inside the daily work of the people who serve members and borrowers. PenFed moved branches, call centers, and operations onto one Salesforce platform and built AI agents that work beside its staff; it says call summaries alone save 30,000 minutes of work a day. Salesforce NEXA launched its own AI tools for loan officers in January 2026. HousingWire Ryan Specialty built its own underwriting workbench and says its property staff produce 11% more quotes. Coverager
On our list: James Schenck, Mike Kortas.
2. Rebuilding the core systems and the org chart
The core is the system of record for accounts, loans, or policies, and replacing it takes years. EMC replaced policy, billing, claims, portals, and data in one six-year program instead of piece by piece. Insurance Business Mountain America Credit Union finished the largest conversion in its core vendor's history in June 2026. Corelation Firms are reorganizing people around the new systems too: EMC cut 17 branches to 10 regions with specialist underwriting units, and Burns & Wilcox organized its brokers into practice groups by line of business. EMC Burns & Wilcox
On our list: Scott Jean, Danny Kaufman.
3. Launching new brands, banks, and charters
Credit unions can only serve their field of membership, so some build new brands or buy banks to reach people they couldn't. MSUFCU built AlumniFi and Collegiate as separate digital brands and bought two Illinois banks. Callahan & Associates Banking Dive Credit unions announced a record 22 bank purchases in 2024 and 16 in 2025. Tyfone Thrivent went further, winning an industrial loan company (ILC) charter to turn its credit union into an online bank. Banking Dive
On our list: April Clobes, Terry Rasmussen.
4. Consolidating into giants
Rocket bought Mr. Cooper, creating a servicer of more than $2.1 trillion in loans for about 10 million clients. Real Estate News Private equity firms bought Truist's insurance brokerage, then the fifth largest in the US, at a $15.5 billion valuation, and recapitalized Amwins. Coverager Amwins In 2025, 73% of 695 insurance agency and broker deals in North America were done by private equity-backed or hybrid buyers. Insurance Business
5. Washington loosens rules while tax fights heat up
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) rescinded rules and ended consent orders in 2025. Mayer Brown The President removed two of the three NCUA board members in April 2025. CU Times A federal ban on most mortgage "trigger leads" took effect on March 5, 2026. NAMB The community banks' trade group, the Independent Community Bankers of America (ICBA), wants the tax exemption ended for credit unions over $1 billion in assets. ICBA
The innovators
Six leaders on our list are rebuilding how their lenders and insurers work
Six leaders in these businesses are among The Originals. Each has made a dated, costly change to how the work is done. The highest scorers are April Clobes of MSUFCU (7.0), Mike Kortas of NEXA (6.2), and Scott Jean of EMC (6.2).
14 of these 17 dated moves came in 2023 or later
So what: Most of these leaders made their costliest moves after rates jumped in 2022, when mortgage volume collapsed and firms had to cut the cost of serving each member, loan, or policy. The changes are recent, so asking what has paid off, and what they'd undo, is a natural way to open a conversation.
Building their own AIRebuilding the core systems and the org chartLaunching new brands, banks, and charters
Each dot is one costly change to how the work is done. Click a dot for a short summary and a link to the story.Show as a table
Founder and Executive Partner, NEXA Lending (NEXA Mortgage) · Mesa, Arizona; mortgage brokerage he founded and has owned alone since July 2026, with 4,122 sponsored loan officers in October 2026; handed the CEO title to Geri Farr in September 2026
Mike launched NEXA's own AI tools for loan officers in January 2026. HousingWire He has turned a pure brokerage into a hybrid that also closes loans in its own name and services them through evoLend, HousingWire and in August 2026 NEXA bought UMortgage, adding 246 loan officers. HousingWire In September he gave up the CEO title, saying "If removing my title helps us grow faster, I will remove the title." HousingWire
“What we're rolling out over the next few weeks alone will change how loans are originated, marketed, and closed” source
Ask aboutNow that NEXA also services loans, how does the loan officer's job change after closing, and what does AI do in it?
President and CEO, PenFed Credit Union · McLean, Virginia; member-owned credit union with about 2.8 million members, $29.2 billion in assets, and about 2,300 employees; CEO since 2014
James cut 569 jobs, about 14% of PenFed's staff, in the fourth quarter of 2022 as lending fell. CU Times Since then he has moved branches, call centers, operations, and PenFed's app onto one Salesforce platform, replaced more than 600 tools, and put AI agents beside staff in member service and IT. Salesforce
“I want to serve 6 million members as easily as we're currently serving 3 million members with this core team of employees.” source
Ask aboutWhich work did the AI agents take over first, and what do the people who used to do it do now?
President and CEO, EMC Insurance Companies · Des Moines, Iowa; policyholder-owned mutual founded in 1911, with about 2,100 employees and $2.05 billion in 2024 premium; CEO since 2020
Scott ran EMC's six-year rebuild of its whole core (policy, billing, claims, portals, and data) at once, at a cost of about a tenth of a year's premium. Insurance Business He took EMC out of the reinsurance business in 2022, EMC cut 17 branches to 10 regions with specialist underwriting units in 2025, EMC and agreed in December 2025 to sell EMC Life while keeping the insurer mutual. EMC
“We selected Guidewire and Guidewire Cloud to help EMC transform into a digital company that can easily adjust to industry disruption and evolving customer expectations” source
Ask aboutWhat did rebuilding everything at once let EMC do that a step-by-step upgrade wouldn't, and what would he never do again?
President, Burns & Wilcox; Group Co-President, H.W. Kaufman Group, Burns & Wilcox and H.W. Kaufman Group · Farmington Hills, Michigan; family-owned wholesale insurance broker and underwriting manager doing business in 94 countries; president since 2022
As chief operating officer, Danny led the launch of practice groups of brokers who specialize by line of business. Burns & Wilcox Burns & Wilcox began overhauling its digital systems in 2020 and now builds AI tools for its brokers and underwriters, Insurance Business and its London-based arm moved onto Novidea's cloud broker system in May 2026. FinTech Global He is also co-president of the family's H.W. Kaufman Group. Burns & Wilcox
“We're really the only one at our scale that's not only privately owned, but also family owned and operated” source
Ask aboutAs big retail brokers buy each other and go straight to insurers, what keeps a family wholesaler necessary?
April built separate digital brands for each stage of life: Collegiate for students and AlumniFi for graduates, each designed to compete with online banks. Callahan & Associates In August 2023 she agreed to buy two Illinois banks, McHenry Savings Bank and Algonquin State Bank, taking the credit union into the Chicago suburbs. Banking Dive In 2025 AlumniFi bought the naming rights to Detroit City FC's new stadium. CUToday
“If you don't have a path forward to grow, it's harder to be relevant and to sustain.” source
Ask aboutWhich did more for member growth, buying banks or building digital brands, and what did each cost?
President and CEO, Thrivent · Minneapolis; member-owned fraternal financial services firm with 2.4 million clients, more than 4,500 employees, and $212 billion under management or advice
Terry won an industrial loan company charter from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) in June 2024, the first since 2020, to turn Thrivent's credit union into a bank. Banking Dive Thrivent Bank opened online in June 2025. Thrivent She has said that when she became CEO, people didn't know Thrivent was a financial services company. Fortune
“For over 120 years, Thrivent has provided purpose-based advice and now we're expanding in banking to grow and serve even more people” source
Ask aboutWhat has the bank changed for members that the credit union couldn't do?
Three leaders outside the list are making similar moves
Each of these leaders runs a member-owned, mutual, or founder-led firm and has made a change worth asking about.
Leigh Brady
President and CEO, State Employees' Credit Union (SECU) · Raleigh, North Carolina; member-owned credit union with $59 billion in assets, 2.9 million members, and more than 8,000 employees
Leigh signed in May 2026 to replace SECU's core system with Corelation's KeyStone, which SECU calls a key piece of its multi-year transformation plan. SECU
Ask aboutWhat a core replacement at the second-largest US credit union changes for a branch employee.
Casey Crawford
Co-founder and CEO, Movement Mortgage · Fort Mill, South Carolina; privately held, founder-led mortgage lender
Casey finished a three-year overhaul of Movement's technology in October 2025 and rolled out MORE, its new loan origination system, nationwide in 13 months. HousingWire
“Once again, we chose to take on the hardest work during a hard market” source
Ask aboutWhy rebuild the loan system in a downturn, and what the new system lets a loan officer skip.
Ed Largent
CEO and Board Chair, Westfield · Westfield Center, Ohio; Ohio Farmers Insurance group with about 3,000 employees
Ed launched Westfield Specialty in 2021 and added a Lloyd's syndicate in 2023, moving a regional insurer into specialty lines. Westfield Westfield
“Our expectation is to methodically enter lines of business where we can attract top talent and grow profitably.” source
Ask aboutHow Westfield hires specialty underwriters without a stock price to pay them with.
The wider field
Public giants and software vendors set the terms the member-owned firms react to
A few large firms and vendors shape what the leaders above can do. They set the price of a loan, the pace of consolidation, and the systems everyone else rents.
Large firms and buyers
Rocket Companies Public; bought Mr. Cooper in October 2025 and services loans for about 10 million clients.
UWM Public, controlled by the Ishbia family; lends only through brokers and works with more than 13,000 broker firms.
Fairway Home Mortgage Signed an enterprise partnership with OpenAI in September 2025.
Companies selling the tools
Salesforce The platform and AI agents under PenFed's member service.
Guidewire Core policy, billing, and claims systems for insurers, including EMC; now sells AI assistants on top.
Corelation KeyStone core for credit unions; converted Mountain America in 2026 and signed SECU.
Tidalwave AI assistant for mortgage loan officers; NEXA is its largest client.
How customers find the firms
Brokers, lead sellers, dealers, and agents take a share of each customer
Notable change
A new law cuts off most mortgage trigger leads from March 2026
When a borrower applied for a mortgage, the credit bureaus used to sell that news to rival lenders, who called within hours. Since March 5, 2026, the Homebuyers Privacy Protection Act, signed in September 2025, allows those "trigger leads" only if the buyer has an existing relationship with the borrower or the borrower opts in. NAMB
Lead sellers face other pressure too: a class action says Zillow steered buyers to its own lender and hid referral fees, and in September 2026 Zillow asked the court to dismiss it for good. Real Estate News
So what: Lenders that bought trigger leads lost a channel, and those that own the relationship gained one. Ask a lender where new borrowers come from now, and how much of that they own.
Each business pays a different middleman. Wholesale lenders pay mortgage brokers. Lenders pay lead sellers for each name. Credit unions let car dealers keep part of the loan rate, and insurers pay independent agents and wholesale brokers a commission on each policy. A member who joins through an employer or church costs no middleman anything.
2 in 10US mortgages that come through brokers, UWM says, almost double the 2014 lowsource
62%of US property and casualty premium placed by independent agents in 2025source
45%of E&S premium placed by wholesale brokers without authority to bind, with nearly 25% more through agencies that underwrite for insurerssource
27%of credit unions run on Fiserv core systems, the largest vendor's share in 2024source
Lenders and insurers pay five of the seven channels that bring them customers
So what: Brokers, lead sellers, car dealers, and independent agents all take a cut before a loan or policy reaches the firm, and wholesale brokers sit between agents and the insurers that take hard risks. Only members who come through their own employer, school, or church, and borrowers sent by a real estate agent, cost the firm no fee. Ask a leader what share of new members or policies comes through channels they pay, and what they've built to reach customers directly.
The firm pays the channelNo fee to the channel
CustomerA home buyer, a car buyer, a credit union member, a family buying life insurance, or a business that needs hard-to-place cover
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Mortgage brokersFirm pays
About 13,000 broker shops, including NEXA, working with wholesale lenders such as UWM and Rocket Pro TPO
The broker takes the borrower's application and places the loan with a wholesale lender, which funds it. About 2 of every 10 US mortgages come through this channel, UWM says.
Either the lender or the borrower pays the broker, never both, and the pay can't rise with the loan's rate. UWM annual report
Lead sellers and trigger leadsFirm pays
LendingTree, Zillow, and the credit bureaus
A borrower fills in one form, and several lenders pay for the chance to call. Since March 5, 2026, credit bureaus can sell a mortgage applicant's name to rival lenders only with consent or an existing relationship.
Paid per lead, click, or funded loan; prices aren't published. NAMB
Real estate agentsNo fee from the firm
The buyer's agent recommends a lender
Many buyers take the lender their agent suggests. Federal law bans paying an agent for that referral, and Zillow faces a class action over how it shares fees.
No legal referral fee; brokerage-owned lenders must disclose the tie. Real Estate News
Car dealersFirm pays
Dealers sending loans through platforms such as Origence's CUDL dealer network
The dealer writes the car loan and sends it to several lenders; the credit union that buys it lets the dealer mark up the rate and keep the difference.
Markups average around 2.5% of the rate, one credit union said. The Financial Brand
Independent insurance agentsFirm pays
Agencies that represent several insurers
Independent agents placed about 62% of US property and casualty premium in 2025, and 87.7% of commercial lines.
A commission on each premium; rates vary by line and aren't published. Agency Checklists
Wholesale brokers and managing general agents (MGAs)Firm pays
Amwins, RT Specialty, CRC, and Burns & Wilcox
When a risk is too hard for regular insurers, the agent takes it to a wholesale broker, who finds an excess and surplus (E&S) insurer. Wholesalers without authority to bind placed 45% of E&S premium in 2025, and agencies that underwrite for insurers nearly 25%.
The insurer pays a commission that the wholesaler shares with the agent; splits aren't published. Insurance Business
Members' own tiesNo fee from the firm
An employer, university, military service, or church community
Credit unions serve a defined field of membership, and fraternal insurers serve members with a common bond. Thrivent sells through its own 3,300 financial professionals.
No fee to a middleman; the firm pays its own staff and marketing. Thrivent
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FirmThe credit union, mortgage lender, mutual or fraternal insurer, or E&S insurer that makes the loan or writes the policy
Fee levels are rarely published in these businesses; where no benchmark exists, the map says so rather than guessing. Each channel links to its source.Show as a table
Channel
Examples
Does the firm pay?
What it costs the firm
Source
Mortgage brokers
About 13,000 broker shops, including NEXA, working with wholesale lenders such as UWM and Rocket Pro TPO
Yes
Either the lender or the borrower pays the broker, never both, and the pay can't rise with the loan's rate
Fiserv and Jack Henry Public companies that supply the core systems of many credit unions.
Origence Owned by credit unions; runs the dealer network for their car loans.
What it means for the firms
Brokers are a cheap way to reach borrowers, and lenders compete for them. UWM argues that "the fastest, cheapest and easiest way for a borrower to obtain a residential mortgage is through the wholesale channel". UWM NEXA, the mortgage brokerage on our list, is adding its own servicing so it keeps the borrower after closing. HousingWire
Car loans depend on dealers. Dealers can mark up a credit union's rate and keep the difference; federal consent orders in 2015 capped markups at 1.25% on loans of five years or less. Goodwin Credit union car loans fell 0.3% in 2025, to $480.1 billion. NCUA
Big retail brokers are squeezing wholesalers. As private equity buys up agencies, the largest ones want to deal directly with insurers, which cuts out the wholesale step. Insurance Business Agencies that underwrite for insurers, known as managing general agents (MGAs), grew about 19% in 2025, to roughly $94 billion. Reinsurance News
Rules for the middlemen are changing
When
Who
What it does
Jul 2010
Congress
The Nonadmitted and Reinsurance Reform Act makes E&S tax and licensing rules follow the client's home state. AM Best
Apr 2011
Federal Reserve (now CFPB)
Lets a lender or a borrower pay a mortgage broker, never both, and bans pay tied to the loan's rate. The Truth About Mortgage
Jul 2015
CFPB and Justice Department
Caps a car lender's dealer markups at 1.25% on loans of five years or less. Goodwin
Conditionally approves deposit insurance for carmakers' industrial loan banks, including Ford, GM, and Stellantis. Goodwin
Sep 2026
Federal court
Zillow asks the court to dismiss a class action over its referral fees and in-house lender for good. Real Estate News
Three leaders run the main channels
Scott Purviance runs Amwins and Tim Turner runs Ryan Specialty, two of the largest wholesale brokers, which compete with Burns & Wilcox. Tony Boutelle runs Origence, which connects car dealers to credit unions.
Scott Purviance
CEO, Amwins · Charlotte; wholesale insurance distributor that calls itself the largest independent one in the US, about 40% owned by employees after a $1 billion recapitalization in 2023; CEO since 2018
Scott led Amwins' $1 billion recapitalization in 2023, which brought in private equity investors while employees kept a large stake. Amwins In May 2026 Amwins bought NARDAC to build an energy, power, and infrastructure practice. Amwins
“For us to consider a deal, it needs to add a capability to our firm, and there has to be a strong cultural fit” source
Ask aboutAs retail brokers grow big enough to go straight to insurers, what can a wholesaler still do that they can't?
Tim Turner
CEO, Ryan Specialty; Chairman, RT Specialty, Ryan Specialty · Chicago; public wholesale broker and underwriting manager founded by Patrick G. Ryan; CEO since October 2024
Tim reported second-quarter 2026 revenue of $916.6 million, up 7.2%, and bought back $260 million of stock. Ryan Specialty Ryan Specialty built its own underwriting workbench, which it says lets property staff produce 11% more quotes. Coverager
Ask aboutWith property prices falling, where does a wholesaler's growth come from in 2027?
Tony Boutelle
President and CEO, Origence · Irvine, California; lending technology company owned by credit unions, which runs CUDL, the network that sends car dealers' loans to credit unions
Tony runs the main network linking car dealers to credit unions; Origence says it has helped credit unions originate nearly $600 billion in loans. Origence via KDH News
Ask aboutAs carmakers' own banks win deposit insurance, how do credit unions keep the dealer's business?
Trade-offs
Six trade-offs divide the leaders you'll meet
Most leaders on our list have picked a side on several of these. In our reading, asking which side they picked, and why, gets to their strategy faster than asking about trends.
1Merge and buy banks, or stay local
"If you don't have a path forward to grow, it's harder to be relevant and to sustain," April Clobes says. Callahan & Associates
Most credit unions stay small: only 739 of 4,287 had more than $500 million in assets at the end of 2025. NCUA
AskWhat size do you need to be to keep your members ten years from now?
2Sell through brokers or own the borrower
UWM says brokers are the fastest, cheapest way to get a mortgage. UWM
NEXA is adding its own correspondent lending and servicing to keep borrowers after closing. HousingWire
AskWho owns the relationship with a borrower five years after the loan closes?
3Rebuild the core at once or step by step
EMC rebuilt policy, billing, claims, and data in one six-year program. Insurance Business
PenFed consolidated more than 600 tools onto one Salesforce platform and took its AI agents from trial to daily use in seven months. Salesforce
AskWhat would you have done differently if you'd had to keep the old system running for five more years?
4Stay mutual or bring in outside capital
EMC is keeping its insurer mutual while selling EMC Life to Avocet Partners. EMC
Amwins sold stakes to private equity firms in a $1 billion recapitalization, with employees keeping about 40%. Amwins
AskWhat can you do as a mutual or family firm that a firm with outside investors can't?
5Keep the charter or get a new one
Thrivent turned its credit union into a bank with an ILC charter. Banking Dive
MSUFCU stayed a credit union and built new brands on top of the same charter. Callahan & Associates
AskWhat would a different charter let you do that your current one doesn't?
6Return earnings to members or invest them
Credit unions earned $18.8 billion in 2025, up 31.5%, money that could go back as better rates. NCUA
PenFed spent on one platform and AI agents so that, James Schenck says, the same team can serve twice the members. Salesforce
AskHow do you explain a large technology budget to members who'd rather have a better rate?
Before a first conversation
Leaders want to talk about rates, consolidation, regulators, and their core systems
In late 2026, mortgage lenders talk about rates back above 7% and the end of trigger leads. Credit union leaders talk about mergers, bank purchases, a changed NCUA board, and banks' push to end their tax exemption. Insurers talk about slowing E&S growth, softer property prices, and the cost of replacing core systems.
Seven mistakes mark an outsider
Calling credit unions small. They hold $2.5 trillion in assets and have 146 million members; Navy Federal alone has $204 billion. NCUA Bankrate
Saying credit unions don't care about profit. They earned $18.8 billion in 2025; the profit becomes capital or member benefits instead of shareholder returns. NCUA
Calling mortgage brokers a dying middleman. About 2 in 10 loans come through brokers, almost double the 2014 low. UWM
Assuming lenders make big money on each loan. Independent lenders earned $785 a loan in 2025, and the bottom fifth lost money. MBA
Treating "mutual" as small or old-fashioned. Mutuals write about 40% of property and casualty premium. Agency Checklists
Calling E&S insurance unregulated or weak. E&S insurers set their own rates, but 98% hold AM Best ratings of "a-" or better, against 85% of all property and casualty insurers. AM Best
Calling Thrivent a social club. It's a regulated insurer, and now a bank owner, with $212 billion under management or advice. Thrivent
Eleven questions get these leaders talking about the work
Rates went back above 7% in October. What did you change the last time rates jumped, and what would you do differently now?
Which job in your firm has AI changed most so far, and which did you expect to change that hasn't?
If you replaced a core system, what did you learn that you'd tell another CEO before they start?
(Credit union) Do you expect to be a buyer or a target in the next five years? What scale do you think you need?
(Credit union) What did your members get from your last merger or bank purchase that they couldn't get before?
(Credit union) Banks want your tax exemption ended. How do you show members what they get from it?
(Mortgage) Trigger leads were cut off in March. Where do your new borrowers come from now, and how many of them do you own?
(Insurer) What does being a mutual or fraternal let you do that a stock company can't, and where does it hold you back?
(Wholesale) As big retail brokers buy each other and go straight to insurers, what keeps your firm necessary?
How many of your customers come from your own marketing and members, and how many through channels you pay?
What's one thing you rebuilt in the last three years that you'd do again, and one you'd undo?
Where they gather
Six events bring these leaders together before June 2027
The Governmental Affairs Conference draws credit union chief executives to Washington. The MBA's independent mortgage bankers conference draws lender owners, the Wholesale & Specialty Insurance Association (WSIA) Underwriting Summit draws wholesale brokers, and the American Fraternal Alliance gathers fraternal insurers.